Can the use of energy-saving lamps cause an environmental disaster?

Yes, an article relevant to our country. ..... And while we will build factories for the processing of discharge lamps and will change the mentality of people, LED lighting will be the most advanced in the world and inexpensive, and we will again catch up with the West)))

Who cares what kind of lamps I use at home. Why do gentlemen from nanotechnology impose their energy-saving lamps at 200 rubles apiece, but for that kind of money I will buy 20 pcs of 100 watt light bulbs. And how to save at home is my business. With enterprises is another matter, but in most cases there is a recycling process.

What the heck is caring for savings, let the harm do more than good. It’s just a business, and the cover is about saving. Already in the dumps are broken lamps and even whole ones that will break when loading garbage. This western know-how as well as polyethylene bags which are already being abandoned in the west. And they just make money on us. Then we can say that they were mistaken, they say should be prohibited.

the so-called Energy-saving lamps have been sold in Russia for many years. But the recycling system is just about to be created. And at our expense. In our city they want to include in the payment for housing and communal services a special payment for the disposal of these same lamps. I think it’s a sinful thing, if it weren’t for them that they were introduced so that all the money could be collected “for utilization”. About the fact that these lamps are many times more expensive, and shine worse than incandescent lamps, I just keep quiet. What is the most opposite - there is no choice. After a few years, incandescent lamps will simply be discontinued. The plants will close. Imagine how they jump in price. Will probably become a luxury item.

When there is nowhere to dispose of (burn) burned-out energy-saving lamps, it is better not to start experiments. It’s better not to touch the “Ilyich’s bulbs”, let them continue to shine, as they shone, “everywhere and always”! You just have to try not to leave the light on in vain. By the way, energy-saving lamps burn out from frequent on and off, i.e. they must be "fired" until they go out. Is there any reasonable saving in electricity?

If you are going to switch to energy-saving lamps, first people are looking for ways to get rid of burned out lamps. And if there are scapegoats, with which you can easily screw in and exchange the burned-out lamps for serviceable ones, then the initial investment in the transition from “Ilyich’s bulbs” to energy-saving lamps will be justified.

Otherwise, it does not make sense to introduce the populism of our leaders, who have always been a damn thing. And such transitions from “Ilyich’s bulbs” to energy-saving lamps are insanity both among Soviet leaders and their followers. Only they did not force us to save as much as now they put us on the counters everywhere.

Of course there is a problem in the disposal of energy-saving lamps, but it may not be necessary to “blame the mirror,” but rather to conduct information events. After all, there are many organizations that deal with this particular issue. Their addresses are not military secrets. And the savings from such lamps are real. Of course, you can live the old days, because people lived in caves too.

Yeah ... first, buy an energy-saving light bulb for 200-300r, and then give 100r for disposal.

And if the light bulb exploded when the light was turned on .... Call the Ministry of Emergency Situations and pay for the call, so that they arrived, remove the remains from the lamp and disinfect the room .... And then boldly make an appointment with an oncologist. Does a person already have oncological disease from birth? Fuck it turns out, let him die ....

The mercury content in compact fluorescent (so-called energy-saving) lamps is very small.The amount of mercury in a compact fluorescent lamp is 2–3 mg. In ordinary fluorescent lamps 30–40 mg (10–15 times more than in compact fluorescent lamps). The thermometer contains 2 grams of mercury (as in 80 - 100 CFL). If such a lamp breaks, then it is necessary to carefully collect and remove all fragments using rubber gloves, and then wipe the surface with a wet rag. In this case, the Ministry of Emergencies is not worth calling.

The questions raised by Margarita in the article certainly require universal attention and a serious attitude towards them. Probably, it would be worthwhile to place this article in the "Controversial Issues" section, since there are moments with which you can disagree, especially with statements about a possible "environmental disaster." I think that when people talk about the problem of recycling compact fluorescent lamps, they usually thicken the paints very much and this problem is greatly embellished. I wonder who it is on hand?

Naturally, such lamps cannot be thrown into a regular trash can, as, by the way, the same used batteries and accumulators cannot be thrown there. We wrap the broken or failed lamp in a bag and carry it to the lamp receiving point. Yes, you need to look for it, for example, via the Internet. Such lamps are accepted in many DEZs and REU. They must have special containers for these purposes. Compact fluorescent lamps can be brought to the IKEA store. They also take burnt out lamps. In general, whoever seeks will always find! And most importantly, do not panic. Not so scary as it seems at first glance!

Doomsday people do for themselves! Everywhere, using poisonous mercury-phosphorus lamps disguised as "economical-luminescent", people poison the environment and an ecological catastrophe will become inevitable!

No one thinks that global warming has "coincided" in time with the active use of poisonous mercury-phosphorus lamps!

All sellers and manufacturers of poisonous mercury-phosphorus lamps and their descendants will die in torment from numerous diseases and will drag all of humanity into the world with you!

Unfortunately, it’s too late, probably, to do something, although it is necessary. For many decades, poisonous mercury-phosphorus lamps poison the environment, many billions of them per year are bulging! And they will bulge for a long time and throw them in the trash, poisoning the environment.

If earlier in order to destroy people, it was necessary to somehow deliver deadly weapons to them, now people themselves drag their death into the house and work - poisonous mercury-phosphorus lamps!

It's a shame for normal people to die because of stupid and greedy humanoid creatures!

Alex, all that you wrote about is complete nonsense. Phosphorus is not included in the composition of fluorescent lamps, but phosphors are used. I already wrote about the presence of mercury in such lamps. There is very little mercury (2–3 mg). So do not panic, live in peace. You are scared on purpose. Frightened people are always very easy to manipulate. Do not trust anyone! If an ecological cotostrophe is possible, then certainly not because of compact fluorescent lamps. Everything will be fine! But saving energy is still worth it and compact fluorescent lamps can very decently help in this.

I do not know how about the benefits, but the harm revealed in my own experience. There was a light in the desk lamp (I use it for 4-5 hours to light an e-book close to my head) the usual 25W decided, I saved it with 7W, I smell, well, I think the new one will burn, there was no smell all the time, then there was a cough, runny nose, I thought the temperature was 35.8, the cough didn’t go away for three weeks, salivation especially at night, the smell of the lamp didn’t go away, after a month I began to suspect almost consumption, then I figured out how to unscrew the bulb and put on the usual incandescent three days later the symptoms went away and fully ...I’m thinking of taking it back to the store or to research at RossPotrebNadzor or don’t bother, and where the shops do not take such happiness to throw it from us. The most interesting thing is that for a couple of years I have been successfully using energy-saving in the kitchen and in the bathroom, but probably there was no reaction to them because of the distance.

I will share my sad experience. In the hallway, the smallest (9?) Lamp worked in the sconce. Someone came, I turned on the overhead light and did not notice how the sconce stopped shining. Thus, for about two hours, power was supplied to the lamp, but it did not shine. About an hour and a half from this time, a rather pungent smell was felt - a mixture of something burnt, sea (iodine?), Something medical, etc. When I found out that the lamp was burned out, took off the lampshade and twisted it with my bare hand. While I was looking for packaging, I checked the warranty period ... in general, about 10 minutes, the lamp was in my hand. As a result, almost a day in the mouth there was a persistent nasty taste of metal, and the worst thing was that an unbearable itch began in a day, first of the palms, now red spots appear and disappear on the wrists, and itchs a lot (and about a month has passed).

All this muck from the house was removed and screwed in by our native lamps. What to do with the skin - I do not know.

"a pungent smell is a mixture of something burnt, marine (iodine?), something medical, etc." - the description is similar to the smell that one of my fluorescent bulbs exudes when working. She stood in a low-hanging chandelier. The smell was associated with ultraviolet light. It gave birth, but then scored on it. What is that smell? The bulb is not cheap (Philips).

Ohhhhh, mercury will get into the environment, it’s necessary to dispose of it, let's throw off the dough - this is a business (my opinion). For example, how and where did mercury get into these lamps from Mars or what? Of course, if you beat them on your head, it will be a disaster, but not an environmental disaster, if you overwhelm a city with a drug, it will also be a disaster but not an environmental disaster. Only those who will breathe mercury will die, and so it is already in nature like uranium, plutonium, all kinds of poison.