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Illuminated switch and LED lamps

 

A backlit switch is a convenient and beautiful solution. It is needed in order not to look at night with your hand where the light turns on, randomly clapping on the wall. But with the transition to energy-saving, and then on led bulbs many have encountered the problem that the light is blinking or dimly lit with such a switch. The backlight also causes this effect. In this article, we will explain why the LED bulbs flash when the light is off.

Illuminated switch and LED lamps

Types of illumination of switches and principle of operation

The switches set the backlight of one of two possible types:

1. Neon light (glow discharge indicator).

2. LED.

Light indication on a neon bulb, as well as on LEDs, consumes low current (units of milliamps). The neon indicator lights up when the switch is in the “OFF” position, that is, when its contacts are open. When you press a key, closing its contacts, the lamp turns on and the display turns off.

The logic of work is elementary. But how does the backlight of the switch work?

Regardless of the type of backlight, so that it burns, it is necessary that a current flows through the bulb. Previously, for home lighting, we used incandescent or halogen lamps, in any case, the light was emitted by a metal spiral.

So the current of the LED or neon flowed along the circuit:

PHASE-BACKLIGHT-SPIRAL LAMP-ZERO

This is clearly illustrated in the figure below.

Illuminated switch device

Check out the schematic of this circuit.

Illuminated circuit breaker circuit

The LED backlight circuit is shown below.

LED backlight circuit
Connecting the backlight in the switch

Why LED and energy-saving lamps flicker

But the spiral of an incandescent lamp is a closed section of the circuit, albeit with great resistance. So we smoothly approached the main issue of the article - the reason for the LED lamps to flash from a switch with an indicator.

The backlight current cannot flow through LEDs or a compact fluorescent lamp (energy saving) because they are not directly powered from a 220V network and do not represent an analogue of a spiral. Both types of economical bulbs are powered by a special device, for fluorescent lamps it is called an electronic ballast, and for LED - driver.

In general, both power supplies are a pulse converter. When you turn on such a lamp in a circuit where there is a switch with a backlight, its current starts charging the smoothing capacitor until there is enough energy on it for a short-term start-up of the lamp.

This is the reason for the lamp to flash when the switch is off. Depending on the power of the lamp and the circuitry of the power circuits, the lamp may flicker, burn dimly or not at all respond to such switches. The backlight, in turn, may or may not work at all.


How to fix the problem

Everything is very simple, so that the light does not blink, you need to remove the LED or neon from the switch. To do this, remove the decorative switch button, remove it from the wall and remove the neon or LED, it can either be in the form of such a module as shown below, or simply installed between the contacts. In any case, you need to remove the indicator lamp.

Neon light module

This video demonstrates this process.

If you do not want to remove the backlight, form an alternative path for the current to flow. For this, a high resistance resistor is installed in parallel with the lamp - 50-510 kOhm 2 W. It can be calculated by the indicator current, or it can be selected empirically.

 

Resistor installation
Connection diagram of resistor to illuminated switch

But many electricians scold this method due to the fact that the resistor can heat up. You can use the reactance of a capacitor for the same purpose.The capacitance of the capacitor should be of the order of fractions of a microfarad (0.1-0.5uF), and the operating voltage should be at least 400V.


Conclusion

It is not difficult to eliminate the flashing of the disconnected lamp from the backlit switch. We presented three options for solving this problem. Each has its own advantages and disadvantages. Which one to choose is up to you. It is also worth noting that now many LED lamps do not blink from the backlight of the switch.

See also at i.electricianexp.com:

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  • The reasons for the flashing of a compact fluorescent lamp (housekeeper) and methods for solving ...
  • Why LED lamps burn out
  • Malfunctions of luminaires with fluorescent lamps and their repair
  • How to make a simple status indicator of a remote lamp

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    Comments:

    # 1 wrote: Alexander | [quote]

     
     

    I did it differently, laid a 3-wire cable to the switch (I connected zero to the third wire) and set the pass-through switch with backlight. The third contact is connected to zero, i.e. when turned off, the lamp completely sits to zero.

     
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    # 2 wrote: Alexei | [quote]

     
     

    And my installation in parallel with the capacitor does not work. As they shone, they shine as they blinked, and they blink.
    Which is very strange, what is the matter is incomprehensible. But if two luminous / flashing lamps are connected in parallel, then there is no problem with the first one closest to the switch, the second is saved even if a capacitor is connected in parallel to it.
    What could be the problem?

     
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    # 3 wrote: Alexei | [quote]

     
     

    Alexei,
    Perhaps the breaker breaks zero.